This is Greg Koukl. He is the founder of Stand to Reason, an organization committed to a clear articulation and defense of the Christian worldview. He is a crisp thinker and a good communicator.
Here is 5.5 minutes of informative video on what the best argument against theism may be. One great snippet from the video is that atheists don’t ague to much on this point because they “think” it is settled. They believe they are the majority position when in actuality 98% of the WORLD population is theistic. Less than 2% really holds that there is no God. Interesting. Check out the video and learn about defending your faith.
Thanks Greg for being a stand up guy. I’d like to shake your hand someday.
Best argument against theism:
The lack of evidence supporting it.
That simple.
I appreciate the interaction on my blog. But it seems to me that all the natural world around us, the ability for us to rationally debate this question, and even your own interest in this subject are all evidences that there is a God. Something cannot come from nothing, that’s basic logic and physics.
But whether someone believes in god or not doesn’t satisfy the soul. The true key to the question is what you do with Jesus Christ. No one can really know God without going through Jesus. What do you think? Is He who He said He was?
-Adam
“But it seems to me that all the natural world around us, the ability for us to rationally debate this question, and even your own interest in this subject are all evidences that there is a God.”
We disagree.
The natural world, rationality and interest are no more evidence for a god than they are evidence for a nature-creating dragon.
“Something cannot come from nothing, that’s basic logic and physics.”
As far as we know. So where, I wonder, did your god come from if it exists?
“But whether someone believes in god or not doesn’t satisfy the soul.”
I don’t believe in, or see any evidence for, souls. So I don’t know what you mean by that statement.
“What do you think? Is He who He said He was?”
I think anecdotes, whether given in person or written years later in a book, are not sufficient evidence for supernatural claims. Whether those claims are religious miracles or abducting extra-terrestrials.
sorry for the delayed response, it has been a busy weekend.
I do see that we disagree on several points. I respect that and want to hear you out clearly.
But let me ask, since belief in a “higher power” and human souls has been accepted by the overwhelming majority of humanity from the beginning of time throughout all races, isn’t it imprudent to throw that all out the window? It seems to me the burden of proof would be on the “atheist” to prove his claims since they fly in the face of the common view of reality.
You claim to be a man of science. When you see the intricacy down to the cellular level of living organisms or the grandeur of space, does it not scream “DESIGN”? This world with all its joys and wonders is not a product of chance. It is the product of a designer!
If you demand evidences, there are plenty. God’s fingerprints are plain to see. But the matter is at the heart level. We could discuss science, archeology and biology and such, but if you refuse the possibility of the supernatural from the beginning, you will never see anything more than you want to see.
For this life and world to have any REAL meaning or hope, there has to be something beyond it to instill that meaning. That, my friend is God. He is very real and very alive. He has revealed Himself most fully through Jesus Christ.
I would love to talk to you more about that if you would allow me.
-Adam
“But let me ask, since belief in a “higher power” and human souls has been accepted by the overwhelming majority of humanity from the beginning of time throughout all races, isn’t it imprudent to throw that all out the window?”
I don’t believe that the number of people believing something has anything to do with whether or not that belief is true.
For the majority of human history, most humans have believed that the Earth was the center of the Universe. That belief, or the number of people who have it, doesn’t make it true.
That being said, I never suggested throwing anything out the window. I have given religion (both in general and specifically) a lot of thought and research. And I have found it severely lacking.
“It seems to me the burden of proof would be on the “atheist” to prove his claims since they fly in the face of the common view of reality. ”
I don’t believe you understand the burden of proof. ‘Atheism’ isn’t making a claim. It is responding to a claim. The burden of proof is on the believers.
“When you see the intricacy down to the cellular level of living organisms or the grandeur of space, does it not scream “DESIGN”? ”
No, it doesn’t. Particularly because most places in the universe are incredibly deadly, and a great many parts of biology are, if designed, designed very poorly for use and/or health.
“This world with all its joys and wonders is not a product of chance. It is the product of a designer! ”
I disagree, and do not think you have made your burden of proof. Nor do I think the opposite of ‘designer’ is ‘chance’. A combination of chance and the way the universe works has led us to where we are currently…with joys and wonders, certainly. But I see no reason to believe those joys and wonders were created by any sort of being.
“God’s fingerprints are plain to see.”
Apparently not, as the vast majority of the world doesn’t believe in the same god you do. You are seeing things where they don’t actually exist based on your preconceived notions and desires, in my humble opinion.
“but if you refuse the possibility of the supernatural from the beginning”
I don’t.
I refuse the possibility of the supernatural unless or until there is good evidence to support it. There hasn’t been, so I see no good reason to assume supernatural explanations for anything.
“For this life and world to have any REAL meaning or hope”
You and I probably don’t agree on the definition of the word ‘real’. I have meaning and hope. It exists because I put it there.
“He has revealed Himself most fully through Jesus Christ. ”
Again…anecdotes, or assertions, aren’t convincing to me.
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